This week on Getting Real With the Housewives, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star Bozoma Saint John gets candid on newcomer Amanda Frances’ past cult experience.
“This one was such a strange one for me,” Bozoma, 49, tells Us Weekly. “I grew up in an evangelical Christian church as well, so I know a lot of the tactics that go very left. There’s a certain line in any kind of religion where you can go from being holy into maybe something that is not as righteous. I don’t think any of us are thinking that cults are a little left of what is righteous, and so I understood how she got there. I wish she would have been vulnerable with the group and with everyone who’s watching about what her experiences are and how they have affected her.”
In the March 12 episode of RHOBH, the cast questioned Amanda’s past, which she previously detailed in a 2015 blog post and said was never “a secret.”
“We all have such different experiences and we all have things that we have failed at that we are trying to figure out, but nobody is perfect,” Bozoma tells Us. “I think the best way to be as truthful and honest as possible. You can’t just put up this veneer of perfection — it’s going to come tumbling down and I think that’s what’s happening.”

Amanda, 41, the author of the bestselling book Rich as F*ck and the creator of numerous online courses set to empower women and businesses, has also been defending her career throughout the course of season 15.
While appearing on the January 22 episode of Watch What Happens Live With Andy Cohen, Bozoma said Amanda was great at “scamming,” a statement she still stands by.
“My opinions about her business didn’t change, but I saw more clearly that some of the misgivings that I had about her were indeed true,” Bozoma explains. “I think she’s a woman who is trying to do the right thing. Unfortunately, her methods of doing that are not clear, and I wish that she could apply some of this goodness in a way that would actually benefit more people. I mean, she talks so much about getting rich AF, but using other people’s money in order to do that.”
She added, “I think she’s cunning. You have to be cunning in order to manipulate people, not manifest.”
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